I have received many emails recently from pastors and lay leaders asking the how to move forward in implementing the “ancient-future” type of 21st century Baptist identity I have presented in this column.

While the idea of finding our future in our past and allowing those stories to be the wind that blows us into uncharted waters has captivated many congregations, others remain hesitant to embrace change of any kind. One pastor even asked how we might bring about fresh expressions of our Baptist witness in more traditional congregations intolerant of anything new or different. After much reflection on these questions and concerns, I have become convinced that our first movement as leaders and congregations is to learn and practice the art of genuine, story-filled conversation.

Alex Gallimore

Instead, I have advocated for an honest look at our history and identity as Baptists—that of the original Baptists as well as that of our individual congregations and to seek new ways to revitalize those identities in ways that speak to emerging generations the same way they spoke to previous generations. This will sometimes mean we create new ministries and experiment in new forms of worship with the understanding that everything we do will in some way remain very familiar to our past. It will be new, but feel old and it will be old, but feel new.

With this as our goal, we begin with genuine conversation. These conversations are never one sided and they welcome a variety of perspectives, voices and stories. Remember, Baptists have always been diverse therefore there are many different types of people in most churches and it is important to make sure they all feel as if their voices are heard. Although people often spend their lifetimes worshiping and serving in the same congregation and share some of their most meaningful moments with the same people there, they reflect and interpret these events and craft stories around them very differently. Genuine conversations cultivate environments in which everyone is able to share their story and communicate which aspect of their identity is most important to them.

From these conversations I think we learn that only a very small minority of Baptist churches are truly intolerant when dealing with change, especially when that change honors and seeks to reconnect them with their most formative stories. After participating in such conversations the churches who do remain intolerant are probably only listening to a minority’s perspective. It is our most important stories and the traditions and identity that created a space for them that we hope to see renewed and all of our future movements are grounded in such continuity. Story-filled conversation sets the tone and pace of this entire process.

Although I referred to this narrative a few articles back, I think Jesus’ interaction on the road to Emmaus is a very helpful biblical model for the kind of conversations we’re seeking. In Luke 24 the resurrected Jesus encounters two disciples as they are traveling from Jerusalem to Emmaus. They were discussing the events of their week, Jesus’ crucifixion, and the mysterious disappearance of his body three days later. Suddenly, Jesus walks up alongside and joins the conversation. He hears their perspective and then begins to interpret their story in light of their common religious history, “beginning with Moses and all the Prophets.”

What happens next is of paramount importance. The group arrives in Emmaus, but “Jesus continued on as if he were going farther.” After some urging, Jesus agrees to stay with them, enters their home, and joins them for a meal. We can imagine that although they had stepped off the road, the conversation continued. As they sat at the table talking, they finally recognize Jesus to be their resurrected rabbi. History has never been the same.

This story reveals the patience that is required of us who seek story-filled conversation. As churches and leaders, we lead people as far down the road as we possibly can, always willing to go further. However when there are some who need to linger on a place or issue for a while longer, we stop and linger with them trusting that as long as the lines of communication remain open, eventually we will see the presence of Christ and journey with him into uncharted waters.

Alex Gallimore ( This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it ) is associate pastor for youth at Piney Grove Baptist Church in Mount Airy, N.C.

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On story-filled conversation
written by Maxine J. Bersch-Lovern, May 12, 2012

I am a Christian storyteller. Now I will converse with you on the subject of stories. I have taught throughout the SBC at Ridgecrest, Glorieta, Nashville, and for state cnventions, associations and churches. One of the points I emphasize in my classes is the importance of memory, of cultivating it and of constantly refreshing it in the matters that are most meaningful in our lives.
Now, I understand your viewpoint and agree most heartily. I am now ninety three years of age, but the Lord has allowed me to continue being fruitful for Him and largely because of using the skills of storytelling. I have one hand-out that I used with almost all classes which bears the title, "If a Body Meet a Body" which you recognize as a line from the folk song, "Coming Through the Rye. However, in this article I am carrying out the ideas that you expressed in your article above. The emotional and spiritual impact of stories has been known by all great teachers, but I always say, "The greatest storyteller of all is God the Father, who uses the narrative as his way of reaching the hearts and minds with His Story of Redemption, and when He robed Himself in flesh and came as our Savior, he did not teach without the use of it, according to Mark's gospel. I, therefore, am responding in conversational language to your remarks, but I love your referencee to the 'ancient-future' for there lies the fact that our faith is the "faith of our fathers, living still." The reason it lives is that we serve a living Savior, "he's in the world today." Therefore, the viewpoints and conversations of all the Christians who read this and respond, or who read it and decide to give it a try, are those in whom the Spirit of the One who raised Christ from the dead, and the One he raised, both dwell in each Christian in the person of the Holy Spirit. We have this treasure in earthen vessels but he is there and the personality of that person is enhanced by Him so that those who feast on His Word and who carry on conversations with Him in prayer, are bound to have something of value to bring to the table as we think about carrying out the Great Commission for we know that it is not God's will that any should perish, but that ALL should come to repentance!!(2 Peter 3)I am not sure of the verse number, but I do "remember" that Peter was speaking of the fact that God is not dilatory in his return but patient and has no wish that anyone be destroyed. Incidentally, he says that we should remember the words spojken of old by the prophets and the commands of our Lord, Jesus Christ Well, the BIG thing then that should prevail as we carry on these conversations, is his commandment to love one another. If that one thing was so important to God that he did not give his Son any option there in Gethsemane, and he had to go through all that horrible death to give us the power to obey it, then we ought never to speak or act in any way that is disobedient to that command. I am looking forward to hearing from others who will add immeasurably to the discussion.

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written by Maxine J. Bersch-Lovern, May 12, 2012

I wish to place my website here for any who wish to read my blogs which deal with storytelling from the Christian viewpoint. www.maxinebersch.com

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